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Look, I'm leaving because the way this was handled was exceptionally poor, but just wanted to make everyone else aware of this bullshit before I leave. Figure it out.

 

 

 

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www.SpartanGaming.co.uk • Nov 9, 2021 12:59 PM
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 12:59 PM
Altis
Player stole vehicle in No PVP zone
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Nick Nov 9, 2021 1:00 PM
Kind of a gray area...
You are allowed to steal vehicles inside this zone, but not PVP
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:00 PM
it says "any form of combat or engagement"
to me stealing my car in a zone where you know you are unable to be shot is definitely a form of engagement
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Nick Nov 9, 2021 1:01 PM
Which is why I stated it's kind of a gray area.
We've allowed it to happen before and have told people it's okay to steal vehicles inside this zone.
Also, you have any video of the incident? Maybe another admin will have a different opinion on the matter.
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:02 PM
well then you need to explicitly put that in the rules because as it stands I just got fucked over out of the best vehicle I've been able to get in weeks
yes uploading now
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If you've told certain people that they are allowed to do something, and that is unclear to all of the other players, then you're effectively giving them an advantage. Any rule exceptions or gray areas have got to be made clear for everyone. Yeah, I'm kinda fuckin pissed
 
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here is their video
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Nick Nov 9, 2021 1:11 PM
For starters seems like you were going to leave it there during the restart looking at the timer so anybody could've easily taken it after.
We also don't tell certain people different things about rules. This same incident has happened and we've told the person making a ticket that they haven't broken any rules and are allowed to steal inside this zone.
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:11 PM
How is stealing not "a form of engagement"?
restart isn't a factor for base raids, why would it be a factor for the no pvp zone?
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Nick Nov 9, 2021 1:12 PM
They were not attacking you..
The rule was initially put in place because there was no bullet protection in the zone. Since we have that this rule is just kind of there. It was never in place to stop stealing but to stop people attacking others.
Again, I know it's a shitty situation for you and I'd be pissed too, but this has happened in the past and we have allowed it numerous times. (edited)
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:13 PM
no, it's a shitty situation for me
you need to put it in your rules explicitly that stealing is allowed there.
I want comp for this, because this is bullshit
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Nick Nov 9, 2021 1:14 PM
We'll see about adding something to the rules, as far as comp, not going to happen.
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:16 PM
Why would you not compensate me for this?
That makes literally no sense
especially since you yourself acknowledged that your rules are unclear
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Rosco P. Coltrane Nov 9, 2021 1:16 PM
because safezone\no-pvp aint a parking place
especially not at restarts
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Nick Nov 9, 2021 1:16 PM
Because this exact scenario happened before.
We're not going to give you special treatment.
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:17 PM
It hadn't even restarted yet, I was going to leave and log off outside after making sure they didn't follow me out
Nobody is asking for special treatment, just read your own rules
How is stealing not "a form of engagement"?
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Rosco P. Coltrane Nov 9, 2021 1:17 PM
well they would prob have destroyed it regardless there
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:18 PM
How would destroying it not be "a form of engagement"?
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Nick Nov 9, 2021 1:18 PM
You kind of antagonized them to do something and you unlocked the vehicle.. Idk what else to tell you here.
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:18 PM
I didnt unlock it
they did
they even said it in the video
they used a thermal scanner
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Nick Nov 9, 2021 1:19 PM
Lol even better
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:19 PM
Wow
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Rosco P. Coltrane Nov 9, 2021 1:19 PM
did u get it from a mission?
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:19 PM
Yes
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Rosco P. Coltrane Nov 9, 2021 1:19 PM
if so they prob knew the code already 😛
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Nick Nov 9, 2021 1:19 PM
Should've drove it straight to the SZ and sold it.
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Chewie Nov 9, 2021 1:19 PM
I had literally just put the lock on it
They admitted to using the thermal scanner on it
you can hear them
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Rosco P. Coltrane Nov 9, 2021 1:19 PM
kk
you got outplayed
easy as that
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Poor @ Chewie i totally agree with you
those admins are so bad. they should have banned you for this long time ago.
 

but tbh its a no-pvp-zone. not a parking place or a no-stealing-zone 
also they got your code so in my eyes it was all legit.

just accept that you got outplayed and we will all forgive you 🙂

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You got outplayed 100%  , you could be right about the engagment thing being unclear but still people destroy/steal any vehicle that was parked in the no-pvp zone everyone has been doing that for ages , you parked your vehicle  there it's your fault , might aswell parked inside the trader and tried to get on quicker than everyone else or even sold it before restart. 

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